More kiwi than kiwifruit

From the archives of "you thought you'd never hear it" comes Episode 52 of Illegal Argument.  We originally recorded this almost a month ago and for one reason or another we found ourselves snowed under and unable to release it.

Unfortunately due to various reasons I don't have show notes available, so this post will get updated with notes soon.

Hey everyone - Richard here. We have started a new Google Group for discussions around Illegal Argument so they are more accessible than the comments on this blog. The URL is

http://groups.google.com/group/illegalargument

Greg currently has the assignment for "meatier" topics to talk about, but you have some to suggest, feel free to post them here. Java/JVM/JVM Community related please :-)

And for the listener bonus! Infinitest which I have been speaking about using (and which makes a huge difference to my ability to do TDD in Eclipse) have a special 25% off the commercial license cost - just use the coupon "Illegal-Argument-Rocks". There are only 50 of them (well, 49 now) and they last until the end of August, so be in quick! I'll be talking about it more as I try and fold it in to my Groovy development in Eclipse.

Oh, and none of us are commercially (or non-commercially) involved with the http://infinitest.org guys, I just think their product is incredible.

Due to an unfortunate recording problem (someone forgot to plug in the microphone) this weeks podcast got recorded on the internal microphone of the MacBook. As the recording suffered too many sound issues (distance, fan noises, and the on the rare case that Mark actually speaks - frog like sounds) we've decided not to post this episode.

Episode #7 will now come next week - and we'll make sure to plug things in :-)